Re: OT: Unicode 5.0
| From: | taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...> |
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| Date: | Wednesday, January 11, 2006, 10:40 |
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* Andreas Johansson said on 2006-01-11 03:00:28 +0100
> Quoting "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>:
> > Isn't "labialized rounded" redundant? How do you labialize
> > without rounding?
>
> You can't labialize without rounding, but you can round without
> labialization.
>
> Labialized rounded is a kind of exaggerated rounding with the lips
> projecting out a bit. In Swedish, the back rounded vowels are
> pronounced with this sort of rounded, but this doesn't contrast with
> normal rounding. However, the formerly back 'u' vowel retains it,
> despite having become front, and only differs from 'ö' by the later
> having normal rounding.
It's the same effect in Norwegian /y/, though the term I've heard there
is extruded. Basically, you can get a Norwegian /y/ by rounding and
extruding the lips while the rest of the mouth holds the position of
Norwegian /i/ or Norwegian /u\/ or anything in between. It gives a very
full, round sound as opposed to the flat and narrow /i/.
t.