Re: "H"'s (Was: Re: aquamarine demon (was <no subject>))

From: "H. S. Teoh"

> Henrik Theiling wrote:
> > Really!  I find it quite nice to have phonemic /h/ and /?/.  Great
> > consonants!
A bitch for those studying Shanghaines and Taiwanese.

> Hmm, recently I've been noticing that the way I pronounce /x/ and /h/ are
> quite (too) similar. My conlang distinguishes between /x/, /h/ and /?/,
> but /xi/ and /hi/ sound a bit too alike to my ears. I was in fact thinking
> of making them allophonic.
Chinese influence? We were taught that "hao3" (and so much etc.) could be
pronounced /haU/ or /xaU/ as allophones. Even after getting there, it always
worked for me. High vowels, natch, were a different game.

As for Géarthnuns, we got:

zç /C<vcd>/  exists in Shanghainese (Polish?) (syllable initial only, [I
think])

ç /C/

--------top 2, not considered in an "h" value by Géarthnuns speakers

rh /X/ (syllable initial only) maybe not accurate, possibly like the "gr" in
the Dutch "Gravenhaage; an unvoiced, breathy French "r"

kh syllable final only /x/

h /h/

"h" is important in Géarthnuns.

Kou