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Re: Ancient Chinese?

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 5, 1999, 0:54
On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:10:35 +0000 "BP.Jonsson" <bpj@...> writes:
>It's Karlgrens transcription system. Accents over letters are >supposed to >indicate palatalization. The "ayin" is a Greek spiritus asper* (rough >breathing in English, IIANM) and indicates what K. called aspiration, >but >we now would call breathy voice when talking about voiced sounds. K's >reconstructions are much called into question -- not in general, but >in >details, like what the phonetic nature of his reconstructed >sound-entities >really was. The only thing everyone seems to agree about is that he >reconstructed more sounds than there were phonemes in the language. >Being >trained in the Swedish dialectologists' tradition, where it was a >virtue to >distinguish the most minute shades of sounds he didn't have a lot of >understanding for phonemic theories!
Ah, thanks!
>*Semiticists also borrowed these Greek signs, but for other purposes, >as >you see. Greek ' was probably alif/glottal stop, but Greek ` was >*certainly* an ordinary [h]. These signs should properly look >different >from quotes (namely like semi-circles).
I don't think i've ever seen an alef written as a semi circle, but i have seen a `ayin that looked when i saw it just like a superscripted "c" (i guess that's the semi-circle). -Stephen (Steg) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]