Re: CHAT: online etymological dictionary (was: Intergermansk - Three Rings)

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0500, J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...> wrote:

>http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/pgmc_torp_about.html
>
>Always nice to know free etymological dictionaries! This one's quite old
>(1909), but appearently still a usuable reference for Germanic cognate sets.
>It's in German, though. And the alphabetical order is according to Indian
>scripts (well, it's much more logical)! Wait, I see that Pascal must be
>referring to a different source, since this book doesn't relate "dunkel" to
>"dusk" (in the entry "(dem)"):
>
>http://penguin.pearson.swarthmore.edu/~scrist1/scanned_books/png/pgmc_torp/b0201.png
That book is just a scan of the original, it's not the corrected version by
Sean Crist that I have. Go download the pdf version and look there (it has a
very freaky encoding though, which makes searching for words containing
special characters tricky...)

Also, there's not just a single entry for "dunkel", but several:

erpa, arpa dunkel s. reupôn. (26:4)

kêma belegt, schmutzig, kêma, kêmi m. Ru ß,
Schmutz. norw. mundartl. kaam belegt,
dunkel, isl. kám n. Schmutzrinde; engl. coom

(hel) 9. dunkel, schwarz sein.

(hu) 1. bedecken. In. an. hûm n. Zwielicht.
h^yma dämmern, dunkel werden.

(þem) dunkel sein.

þemara (oder temaz-) m. Dunkel,
Dämmerung. ahd. demar m., md. demere
f., ahd. demerunga, md. demerunge f.
crepusculum, nhd. D&#127;ämmerung.

denkva dunkel s. dem. (200:4)

(dem) stieben, rauchen, dampfen. In nnorw.
daam dunkel (aus dêma), daame m. Wolkenschleier,
daam m. Geschmack, Geruch = an.
dâmr Geschmack.

denkva dunkel. an. dø kkr dunkel; afries.
diunk dass. Wz. denk, Weiterbildung zu
dem. Vgl. norw. daam dunkel und ir. deim
dass. Ablaut und anderes Suffix (germ.
dunkara, dunkala) in as. dunkar, ahd.
tunkal, nhd. dunkel. Urspr&#127;ügliche Bedeutung:
von Dunst umgeben. Hierzu auch
norw. mundartl. dunken feucht, moderig,
engl. dank, mundartl. dunk feucht.

dumba tr&#127;ube (eig. umnebelt), dunkel,
stumm.

(derk) dunkel sein. In ags. deorc dunkel (aus
derka), engl. dark

(dug) dunkel sein (?). In germ. daug(a)la: ags.
d éagol, dí  egle heimlich; ahd. tougal, dougal
dunkel, verborgen, geheim.

vvvv ATTENTION PLEASE vvvv

duska 3. dunkel. ags. dosc dunkel,
engl. dusk Zwielicht.

^^^^ SEE THIS? ^^^^

This is what I was referring to.
There are still some more entries for "dunkel",but I'll leave it at that.

--
Pascal A. Kramm, author of:
Intergermansk: http://www.choton.org/ig/
Chatiga: http://www.choton.org/chatiga/
Choton: http://www.choton.org
Ichwara Prana: http://www.choton.org/ichwara/
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Advanced English: http://www.choton.org/ae/