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Re: HELP: a few questions

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Thursday, August 15, 2002, 20:25
At 11:19 PM -0700 8/14/02, Jim Grossmann wrote:
>Hi, all, > >I have a few questions... > >1st: Does anyone remember an old thread about how to do a 24-hour conlang, >i.e. how to write a grammar as rapidly as possible? I tried searching the >archives for this thread, without success.
I remember that. Wasn't it Jack Durst who issued the challenge? As I remember, he didn't provide any guidance in how to do it, he just described the fruit of his labors.
>2nd: Has anyone experimented with chaining conlangs or other ways to >eliminate grammatical subordination of clauses in a conlang?
Haven't done this. I've always been fascinated by subordination, but in my projects I like to turn subordinate clauses into what look like noun phrases. I then claim that the language doesn't actually have subordinate clauses, since they're really noun phrases. But that's cheating.
>3rd: Here's a twice-asked question: I've heard that, the more >sophisticated the cross-referencing system on the verbs, the less need there >is to explicitly mark embedding. Why would this be so?
I remember you asking the first time, but I didn't have a good answer then; I still don't. Sorry! You might want to look at verbal systems in Papuan languages; I believe that they have the cross-referencing properties you're interested in. I know of a really good grammar for Yimas which was written by William Foley; that might have something of interest. Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga Man deth swa he byth thonne he mot swa he wile. 'A man does as he is when he can do what he wants.' - Old English Proverb


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