|From:||Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg.rhiemeier@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, September 12, 2000, 22:19|
Lars Henrik Mathiesen tetent:
> > Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:47:57 -0400
> > From: Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
> > <despairing look> You mean I'm taking German and I'll be able to read
> > abstruse German topology text but I won't be able to *talk* to anyone? I
> > should've listened harder when my boyfriend made some vague mention of
> > High/Low German.
> Hey now, I'm sure Germans could write lucid math texts if they wanted
> to. But don't despair, I don't think you'll be able to find a Platt
> speaker who isn't bilingual in High German as well. (Unless they live
> in the Netherlands --- I think there is a small pocket there).
Actually, quite a large pocket, encompassing the provinces of Groningen,
Drenthe, Overijssel and the east half of Gelderland. And those people
are all bilingual in Dutch, and quite many of them quadrilingual: they
speak Low German, Dutch, High German and English.
> In fact, the Standard German spoken in Northern Germany is actually
> quite Standard, because the local dialects are a different languge.
> The problem is Bavarians, Austrians and that lot, who think their
> regional variants of High German are intelligible to people who have
> learnt Standard German as a second language.
Yes, that's the problem. They *think* they speak German, while they do
We here in northern Germany *know* that our mother language is something
different than standard German, and thus bother learning the standard
language, while those foppish southerners apparently haven't realized
The situation in southern Kemr might be similar: in those areas where
the native language is Kerno, people speak better Brithenig than where
it is a non-standard dialect of Brithenig proper.