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Re: Phonology - Allophone presentation?

From:Aidan Grey <taalenmaple@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 21:59
Okay, if I understand you right, the standard practice is to include all possible
phones, so that the list will include both /i/ and /I/ from my example. Then in
the chunk on allophony, I can explain details.

I am trying to do something fairly standard in the description, and by standard
I mean what linguists do with real world languages here. As a phonologist,
you're the ideal person to know this, Dirk!


----- Original Message ----
From: Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:04:54 PM
Subject: Re: Phonology - Allophone presentation?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Aidan Grey <taalenmaple@...> wrote:

> Simple question: > > When presenting a phonology, are ONLY minimal pairs included in the IPA > table standard? Or should every possible phoneme be included, with > explanatory remarks later? > > I have allophonic variation between /i/ and /I/ - the lax vowel /I/ is an > allophone of /i/ before geminate consonants. So, for example, the difference > between 'seen' and 'sin' would be represented as /sin/ and /sIn:/, or <sin> > and <sinn>, respectively. > > Do I include /I/, or just note it in the details?
Well, it's your language and your description. But my preference is to include statements about allophony in the description of the language (due no doubt to my being a phonologist by profession), much as you've outlined above; this is also the practice of those writing descriptive grammars in the American Structuralist tradition. Typically, the phonology section of such a grammar will have an inventory of phones (not just the phonemes); a list, with examples, of major phonetic processes (= allophony); statements concerning phonotactics--syllable structure, (dis)allowed consonant clusters, etc; and stress. There will often be a section on morphophonemics--the alternation of phonemes due to morphological processes--but that will of course depend on the nature of the language being described.
> Aidan >
Dirk -- Miapimoquitch: Tcf Pt*p+++12,4(c)v(v/c) W* Mf+++h+++t*a2c*g*n4 Sf++++argh La----c++d++600


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