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Re: Aspirated stops vs. fricatives (was Re: Tit'xka (Pretty Long Post))

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 30, 1998, 6:58
Nik Taylor wrote:

> Eric Christopherson wrote: > > ACK! Yeah, I messed up those examples. I think the difference between > > initial and final /k/ is not aspiration, but point of articulation. > > The /k/ in "kill" is more uvular than the one in "pack" or something. > > /k/ in kill *is* aspirated. The /k/ in pack, as Tom Wier has already > pointed out, is unreleased. Actually, the /k/ in "kill" *is* pronounce=
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> at a somewhat more forward position than "pack" or "code", it's > partially palatized.
Well, the /k/ in "pack" is just the same as that of "kill" in my dialect, in terms of point of articulation. There's also a rule in English that stipulates that when near a front vowel, /k/ is instantiated as a palatal rather than a velar stop. This would leave such back-voweled words as "code" with velar stops. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tom Wier <twier@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." "S=F4=F0 is gecy=FEed / =FE=E6t mihtig God manna cynes / w=EAold w=EEde-ferh=F0." _Beowulf_, ll. 700-702 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D