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Re: 2d case system

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 6:22
From: "Peter Bleackley" <Peter.Bleackley@...>

> I've had an idea for a very complex case system, with two axes. The first > axis consists of gramatical role, comprising Agent, Subject, Patient, > Dative, and various cases indicating location or motion. The second axis > indicates relations of ownership, and consists of Simple (no ownership > relation is specified), Genitive (specifies the owner of something), > Possesional (indicates the thing owned) and Intermediate Possesive
(denotes
> something that is owned by something and in turn owns something else). > Here's a gloss of a sentance showing this case system at work
Anybody know the alleged 50-odd cases of Tabassaran? That's kinda an "urban legend" of linguistics, but I do know the Finno-Ugric (Hungarian, Finnish etc.) languages have a two-dimensional local case system. Hungarian, for instance: Interior cases Stationary: -ben, -ban Approach: -be, -ba (illative) Depart: -bo"l, bo'l Exterior surface cases Stationary: -n Approach: -re, -ra (sublative) Depart: -ro"l, ro'l Exterior proximity cases Stationary: -ne'l, -na'l Approach: -hez, -ho:z, -hoz (allative) Depart: -to"l, -to'l Terminus case Approach: -ig (terminative) (V: = short + umlaut, V' = long, V" = long + umlaut) Now that's not the same as what you're looking for; all these cases refer to position and movement -- actual physical locations, rather than grammatical functions. Hungarian also has those cases (genitive, accusative, etc.). Finnish, which has 15 or 16 cases, has something very similar. ~Danny~

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