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Re: Imperative mood in ergative languages

From:tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 1:06
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Isaac Penzev <isaacp@U...> wrote:
> > Hello, > > having started P47 project, I met a problem. The lang is intended
to have
> three basic types of a simple sentence: absolute (for intransitive
verbs),
> ergative (for transitive verbs) and dative (for perceptive verbs).
In
> indicative mood it goes smooth. How then it works in imperative? If > indicative "The hunter killed a wolf" and "The boy hears his
father's voice"
> may be glossed as "wolf is.killed hunter-ERG" and "father-GEN voice
is.heard
> boy-DAT", will imperative "Kill the wolf!", "Hear my voice!" be
rendered as
> "wolf let.it.be.killed you-ERG", "my voice let.be.heard you-DAT"?
IIRC in
> Georgian imperative in fact coincides with aorist, so "Give me some
wine!"
> is the same as "You have.given me (some) wine!" Any confirmation?
Any
> alternatives? > > -- Yitzik > from frosty Ukraine with love >
I can't think of any systematic treatment of "passive voices and passivization in ergative languages". I think it must be both rare and idiosyncratic. Detransitivization in ergative languages is usually anti- passivization, not passivization. If "Kill-ACT wolf-ABS Peter-ERG" is the active form, "Kill-ANTIPAS Peter-ABS (wolf-OBL)" would be the anti-passive form.