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Re: Q's Re: A conlang idea rolling around in my head

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 3, 2003, 9:51
David Peterson wrote:
> All right, those are my questions. Anyone with any idea, no matter > how slight, please allow it to come forth! I'm on a mission! I NEED > a pictograph language!
Well, I'd look at things like Egyptian hieroglyphics or Chinese Hanzi. In Hanzi/Kanji, you have a mixture of origins. Some characters are derived from pictures, altho often so stylized over the millennia that they look essentially arbitrary. Others are more abstract in origin, for example, the character for "up/above" looks something like this: | | |--- | | _________ Still others are combinations of elements. This is a large majority (well over 90%). Some are characters that combine ideas, for example sun + moon = light, woman + child = good; sometimes rather culture-dependant and metaphorical, for example roof + pig = house, the reason being "roof" symbolizes a building, obvious enough, and pig symbolized leisure (because the pig is the only domestic animal that neither works nor produces anything, like eggs or milk, during its lifetime), thus "place of leisure" is the house. And some are rather neat, like "snow" comes from rain (in this context, "weather") + broom-in-hand, thus "weather phenomenon that can be cleared away with a broom" - which is, therefore, snow. The majority of combination characters are of the class called phonetic-semantic, which combines an element suggesting meaning with an element suggesting sound, for example (I'll be using the on-yomi of Japanese since I don't know the readings in Mandarin or any other Chinese language) Sun (ni(chi)) + Birth/Life (Sei) = Star (Sei) That is, something like a sun, pronounced _sei_ Plant + Early/fast (sou) = Grass (sou) That is, plant pronounced as _sou_ Because characters were borrowed from different parts of China, and different periods of time, the phonetic element is sometimes strained, or even lost, in Japanese. Still others are characters that originally meant one thing and were borrowed for homophones. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42