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Re: Láadan

From:Ian Maxwell <umlaut@...>
Date:Thursday, November 28, 2002, 2:49
Doug Dee wrote:
> * > Which features of Laadan gave you the impression of mean-spiritedness? > > Dou
I think one thing that gave me that idea was the evidential marker for "assumed to be false because speaker distrusts source". There was also the use of the sound /K/, described as follows: "t is a sound with a hissing quality, and is not especially pleasant to hear. In Láadan it occurs only in words that are themselves references to something unpleasant, and can be added to words to give them a negative meaning." (That general idea aside, I happen to *like* lateral fricatives, and don't really like someone telling me as a matter of fact that they are unpleasant.) There was also, in the list of honorifics, a "dishonorific" meaning that the referent is despised. Aside from that tone, there was also the lovely evidential meaning "Perceived by speaker in a dream". Personally, I don't think women are any more prone to superstition regarding dreams than men, but apparently Elgin disagrees with me. It seems the overall effect of Láadan in use is to include a lot more of the speaker's personal opinions and attitudes in a given utterance or writing than do most (though probably not all) natural languages. The upshoot of this is that the only way to be civil to someone you dislike is to lie outright. "Hello, Mike-the-despised" just doesn't work. - Ian Maxwell -- C'est la vie, c'est la guerre, c'est la pomme de terre. CONLANGER CODE: CU v1.1 !lm+ cN:R:N:H a+ y n19:1 !B* A+ E--- L+ N1<2 Im k-- ia@:@ p@ s@ m- o P-- S--- Ingyrri