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Re: Xhosa?

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 25, 2001, 18:48
At 9:44 pm -0400 24/9/01, Herman Miller wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:48:37 EDT, Colin Halverson <CHalvrson@...> >wrote: > >>It's me yet again. No answers but a tonne of questions- >>I was wondering if anyone knows how many/which letters stand for/how to say >>the clicks or clucks of Xhosa (or any other language for that matter). Is >>there an IPA or whatever for these kind of sounds? Does anyone have a >>conlang that involves clicks/clucks? > >In Xhosa and Zulu, the click letters are <c>, <q>, and <x>: <c> is dental, ><q> is alveolar (or maybe retroflex?), and <x> is lateral. They may also be >aspirated, voiced, or nasalized, so you get combinations like the <xh> in >"Xhosa" (aspirated lateral click). I've used clicks in a couple of old >languages (really language sketches), Nikta (N!tet'ak'!tùl) and Qiira >Triicha (the <q> of "Qiira" is a low-pitched alveolar click, and the >language also has a higher-pitched alveolar click written <x>!). >
Yes <q> is retroflex. The full set of Zulu clicks with the Zulu spelling are: DENTAL RETROFLEX LATERAL voiceless aspirated: ch qh xh voiceless unaspirated: c q x voiced: gc gq gx nasalized: nc nq nx Xhosa has all these and more; it distinguished voiceless & voiced nasal clicks. The last row above are the unvoiced ones; the voiced nasal clicks are written: ngc ngq ngx As if that weren't enough, Xhosa also has unvoiced clicks after the velar nasal [N]; they are written: nkc nkq nkx The <k> is not, of course, pronounced in the last three; it merely signifies that the preceeding <n> is a velar nasal and that the click is unvoiced. Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================