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Re: [SEARCH / CHAT] PIE roots anywhere?

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Saturday, March 16, 2002, 0:40
   > > I could take a position that T > Th, D > T and Dh > D (with an allophone
   >of Dh),
   > > where the (new) plain voiceless stop need not be ejective or otherwise
   > > glottalized, but may be "half-voiced". Another theory of mine is in a
   > > to Korean and Middle Chinese, where the triad is, in order: voiceless
   > > plain "lax" voiceless with voiced intervocalic allophone, and the
   > > consonant is now the voiced (aspirate) stop, which parallels the "tense"
   > > "ssang-" Hangul consonants. So then the result is T > Th, D > T/D, and D
   >DD or
   > > D'.
   >Does that agree with Kartvelian data? :-)

   Actually I had Armenian in mind, or Germanic if you don't spirantize the
   voiceless. The Korean elusion reflects a possible Altaic parallel --
   Starostin reconstructs a three-way (Th T D). Hoppe, however, has just the
   voiceless and voiced.

   People who are skeptical about Gamqrelidze site his being Georgian as
   possibly "tainting" his logic toward the existence of ejectives in (early)
   PIE. They also cite that Eastern Armenian and Ossete picked up ejectives
   from Caucasian influence.

   But my opinion leans toward Gamqrelidze-Ivanov and a Kartvelian (and
   Semitic) type system, but I'm still open-minded about this.


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