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Re: Questions on Proto-Indo-European

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Sunday, January 12, 2003, 8:06
 --- Quentin Read skrzypszy:

> I have recently gotten a book on PIE Roots (The Roots > of English, by David Claiborne) serendipitously from a > used bookstore - very interesting.
I envy you.
> First of all, how where the consonants bh, dh, and gh > actually pronounced? I can't really visualize it (or > audio-lize it).
This question has been answered sufficiently, I think. Or at least, I have nothing to add.
> Second, where can I find a complete list of PIE roots, > not just those that English has taken a word from? I > am trying to make some new branches of the IE family > and it would be biased toward English to only use > those roots. So far any source I have found including > the section in the back of the American HEritage > Dictionary have only English roots.
Yes, I've used that, too. A great source with three major disadvantages: - it is not very convenient to work with in this sense that every word requires a lot of mouseclicking; - it gives Indo-European as far as they are connected to English. That's the trouble you get when collecting roots from etymological dictionaries; - it is incomplete. The Pokorny link Danny gave (http://iiasnt.leidenuniv.nl/) is definitely very useful. They are really doing great things there in Leiden. A few days ago, I discovered an online Tocharian B dictionary! (I would buy the book, but 207 $ or € seems to be a lot for a book). Christopher Gwinn used to have a great list of (ca. 2000 IIRC) PIE roots. The link seems to be dead now, but since I am on a list of which he is the listowner, I guess I can ask him where it went). Anyhow, I might have made downloaded it when it was still there. I must check it at work. If I find it, I'll send it to you privately. Just bear in mind, that there is no uniform version of an Indo-European root. In fact, every Indo-Europeanist has his own style and methods, giving sometimes quite differing results.
> I've spent the last few English classes using the list of roots to > create a new language, Quaroeth.
Cool! I want to see that language! Grammar, especially...
> As a parting shot a pithy Quaroeth maxim shamelessly > plagiarized from english: > > Miquotu quiriiri um buyardotum iholual oak. > > Grass greener in side other is.
More! More! Jan ===== "Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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