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Re: Copyrighted Conlangs?

From:Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>
Date:Thursday, December 25, 2003, 21:04
--- Caleb Hines <cph9fa@...> wrote:

> my guess would be that New > Line Cinema now "owns" all of Tolkein's > beautiful names?
My guess too. Couple years back a fellow had set up a web buisness called "Shirepost" through which he sells (very well done, in my opinion) coins and stamps from the Shire and other Middle Earth places. Anyone interested in coin collecting and ME would do well to check it out. I note now that where before everything was spelled right all the names now are crippled: Shire > Shaire; Morgoth > Morgouth; Angmar > Angmaur. Tis a shame, but understandable. I very much doubt the World or Ill Bethisad will ever be so marketable; but there is the reality that CJRT has made a killing off his father's creation and wants to ensure that the profits due him as Heir keep comming in. I also understand very much that CJRT wants to preserve both his father's vision and his own contributions to same in a manner unsullied by interlopers. As beautiful and as honestly done as the Shirepost products are, they are nevertheless infringements of a sort upon the Author's work and may not entirely fit with the reality Tolkein created. There is plenty of room for knock-off products and second rate fan fiction based loosely on his characters to proliferate as well. It's also understandable that New Line Cinema [or should that be New Laine Cynyma? :) ] also want their share of the Tolkien pie; and let's face it, they undoubtedly have more powerful wizzards...er...lawyers at their beck and call!
> Am I the > only one that thinks that trademarking "the > Shire" sounds like one of > Saruman's plots of revenge against the Hobbits?
Sounds about right. I guess the fame of the movie industry is a double edged sword: 15 years ago, this would have been a nonissue. All any fans had was a few books and a wide open imagination. Now, things are very much different. It is certainly something for those of us who ever based a conculture or world - even in small part! - upon Middle Earth (TM???) to think about changing before some big bad lawyer swoops down on us like Smog the Impotent (TM~!~) over Dingledail (TM) and tells us to change it or face Judge Sourgrape's (TM) wrath! My own World has no more than a toehold in Middle Earth's early mythology - but that could be excised without much hurt. I'm thinking especially of of Steg's Rokbeigalm, who actually live in Tolkien's (TM) Middle Earth (TM). Padraic (TM). ===== la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. -- Ill Bethisad -- <http://www.geocities.com/elemtilas/ill_bethisad> Come visit The World! -- <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/> .

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