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Re: Metalanguage query

From:John Quijada <jq_ithkuil@...>
Date:Thursday, January 29, 2004, 20:51
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:22:39 +0000, Jonathan Knibb <j_knibb@...>

>Telona is mutating still, but remains true to its allnoun-plus-operators >syntax and its characteristic binary-tree syntax with obligatory >topic-comment structure. Anyone who hasn't seen it and is interested - >John, certain features are similar to, though much less developed than,
>Ithkuil - is welcome to inspect the sadly out-of-date document at >
_________ Jonathan: I definitely see many conceptual similarities to Ithkuil, both in our purposes and in the actual language components themselves. However, the only thing I see about Telona that is "less developed" than Ithkuil is the fact that you haven't completed it yet. In reading your Telona document, what strikes me is that you and I have addressed similar conceptual issues, but Ithkuil does so almost exclusively at the morphological and lexico-semantic levels, while Telona does so mostly at the morpho-syntactical and syntactical levels. I find your syntax astoundingly original and elegant, with enough complexity to really give a fellow conlanger something to chew on. It gives me ideas on how much more I could have "compressed" Ithkuil sentences with a hierarchical tree-like syntax such as yours. Your idea of co-reference across an entire sentence adds a whole new layer to what is possible in a grammar. As for any critique, it seems to me that 3 operators might be insufficient to handle non-action type sensarios such as affective states, hypothetical sentences, counterfactual "what if's", etc. I'll need to read it again to see if I'm getting it all. Please continue to post your progress. I'm quite intrigued.