Re: sorry Mark Lang...
From: | Sally Caves <scaves@...> |
Date: | Thursday, June 17, 2004, 19:38 |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
> SC> One brain fart after the other. Mark, Line, Reed, P. J., whatever!
At any
> SC> rate, it's a great day outside! Let's all go enjoy it!
> SC> The apology still stands!
>
> Heh heh heh. Well, I already posted that I'll be adopting the sobriquet
> "Marcos",
Good! Does that mean we get to address you as Marcos, Marcos? :)
although I
> think that's slightly out of date), Methkaeki, and Rozhuth. Okaikiar and
> Rozhuth have well-developed native writing systems, while Methkaeki so
> far exists only in Romanization. However, Rozuth grew out of the
> same ideas as Methkaeki, so they're grammatically very similar;
> I created R. on a business trip when I was stuck in the hotel room with
> time to kill and no Internet access.
>
> None of them is terribly interesting, I'm afraid.
All conlangs are interesting. CONLANGING is very weird. It doesn't seem so
to us, but think of all those blissfully ignorant outsiders.
> Okaikiar is a
> highly-inflected language with many cases; the other two are
> agglutinating. Boring SOV order. Okaikiar's most distinctive feature
> is probably its relative poverty of consonant phonemes, although the
> spatial/temporal marker is also perhaps noteworthy.
Alas, your site won't appear when I click on it. "Page Missing." Is my DSL
acting up again, or have you mistyped the URL?
> I am quite
> proud of its writing system, however original it is or isn't. :)
That's what I wanted to see.
> I'm also fond of Rozhuth's script, too, actually, although it's not
> available online yet. It's a backwards abugida
Vocab. check: abugida? abjad? Damn my ignorance of Hebrew/Arabic scripts!
Or...
> - the bare consonant
> implies a tagalong vowel, but the syllable so reprsented is VC rather
> than CV, so the symbol for /b/ represents the syllable /ab/ (unless
> marked with a different vowel or the no-vowel mark). It actually
> developed that way organically; it started out as a normal abjad, but
> putting the vowels on the following rather than preceding consonant fit
> the syllable structure better, and /a/ was far and away the most
> frequent vowel and I quickly got tired of writing it, so I dropped the
> symbol for it. :)
I was very proud of my macroned o, in Teonaht, but it was by far the most
common vowel next to a, and when I was faced with webifying my project I had
to dispense with it, although it still dominates my printed materials. A
little quirk of T. was that "o" would represent the sound /u/, and o +
macron the regular /o/. That, along with "u" as /j/ and ht as /T/ were some
of the things that I thought added a pleasing irregularity to Teonaht in
roman script. Is there anyway, these days, to represent a macron in html?
Since the process of producing these characters was so arduous when I
learned them in 1998 (still working with html 5)--õ--I thought that
it would be best to mark the less frequently occurring character.
> I have also been reading up on the history of the Romance languages to
> get up to speed on how they work, so I can develop a plausible new one
> as a stepping stone toward my ultimate goal of doing the same thing
> starting from PIE instaed of Latin.
Hmmm. You could join Ill Bethisad if you haven't already.
That is, I wish to create a
> language that is identifiably IE, yet not part of any of the already known
> subfamilies.
That was supposed to be Teonaht, but she is a very hybrid creature, and much
about her is not at all IE.
> -Marcos
Sal (in case any other Sally's appear on the list)
This is my fifth post, so I'll sign off now.
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