Re: CHAT: Support/Oppression of Conlanging

Christophe Grandsire wrote:
>
>En réponse à Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>:
>
> >
> > I don't think I've ever seen the Japanese military regime in the 1930s
> > and
> > early 40s ever labled as "fascist". Undoubtedly, there are people
> > who'd
> > claim it was (hey, I know people who think Bill Clinton 's a fascist!),
> > but
> > it's interesting you should introduce it here.
> >
>
>Well, the ideology behind this militaristic regime was based also on
>hypernationalism and xenophobia, pretty near to the Fascist and Nazi
>regimes.
>If you can extend fascism to include nazism and franquism, you can easily
>include the Japanese regime.
I know basically nothing of the interior politics of Japan during the
pre-1945 bit of Hirohito's reign, so I'm not having any opinion of my own.

BTW, is "franquism" an accepted term? I've seen Franco's ideology refered to
as "falangism".
>
> > Would you call it Fascist? What modern, non-democratic governments would
> > you
> > not call Fascist? (Please don't take those two questions as any kind
> > of
> > insults - I'm genuinely curious how devide this semantic space, and in
> > particular what, in your opinion, is the difference between "fascism"
> > and
> > "totalitarianism".)
> >
>
>Well, pretty much all the non-democratic governments I know of. Cuba is not
>fascist, neither is China or North Korea. I don't know enough of African
>regimes to give an opinon on them. Modern Russia is still totalitarian,
>despite
>a pretension of democracy, but it's not fascist anymore. My definition of
>fascism *is* precise and simple. That's why I keep it.
We-ell, it still doesn't seem much useful to me, and does leave us without a
term for dictatorial rule by the far right.

Also, in what way is Russia more totalitarian than is China or Cuba?

I did write a lengthy response to you first post, which seems to've vanished
in thin air. Apart from various comments on economy etc that others have
since supplied, I also wrote that I strongly disagree with the notion that
the political landscape is a circle. It's, if anything, a polydimensional
space with a number of more-or-less independent axes. I also pointed out
that "the far right" isn't rightist, and that the true right extreme of the
left-right axis isn't, in fact, much similar at all to Stalinesque
socialism.

                                                       Andreas

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