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Re: Despues and Apud

From:Dan Jones <devobratus@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 8, 2003, 15:25
Adam Walker wrote:

>Does anyone know where the first "S" in despues comes from? The VL >original was supposedly depost or depositus giving French depuis, >Portuguese depois, Italian dopo and Rumanian dupa. Only Spanish has this >extra "s". Is there any identifiable historical reason or was it just >Spanish whimsy.
According to Ralph Penny's "History of the Spanish Language", "despues" is from the latin "de ex post". Mediaeval Spanish used "des" (< "de ex") as a variant of "de" (< "de"), but today only the latter survives, except in fossilised expressions such as des allí, desde, despues etc. It's also worth noting that the variant "depues" (without the first <s>) was used in Mediaeval Spanish and is still current in several dialects.
>Also did Latin apud spawn any childrean besides French avec from apud+haec?
Not as far as I know. Also, IIRC, "avec" is from "apud hoc" Dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ath yw dyned can pob den o rydhad o voenyth, cynanaf â chraveth. o Raeth 18 o Gorlavaraed Vethysadec an Dynedad Dyneth

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