Re: X-X-SAMPA (Keeping the Standard)
From: | Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...> |
Date: | Friday, December 28, 2001, 20:09 |
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:58:42 -0000, Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@...>
wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:26:15 +0100
>> From: Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
>>
>> --- In conlang@y..., Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@D...> wrote:
>> > Anyway, wanting to separate two symbols doesn't necessarily imply a
>> > syllable break. For instance, you might want to contrast /i-ts/ (with
>> > an affricate) and /it-s/ (with separate consonants).
>>
>> Does anyone actually make a difference it speech there?
>
>That would depend on the phonotactics of your language. I don't think
>there's a distinction in English (unless a syllable break is also
>involved) but I'm pretty sure that I've seen (natural) languages
>mentioned on this list that do make this or a similar distinction.
Most of the Slavic ones, for example. Most examples from Russian may be
somewhat artificial (either using loanwords or involving other phonetic
features), but Polish provides loads of good examples. E. g., _czy_ [t_S{]
'whether' is clearly different from _trzy_ [tS{] 'three'.
In fact, when I discovered that German *doesn't* differentiate
tautosyllabic cluster [ts] from the affricate, it seemed so weird to me! ;)
Speaking of transcriptions: has anybody tried to adopt some standard 8-bit
encoding? I mean, ae-ligature = æ, etc.?
Basilius