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Re: Probability of Article Replacement?

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 21:20
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 8:27 pm, John Cowan wrote:
> Joe scripsit: > > I think one may be discarded by a process of elision. 'the' is doing > > this in some english dialects, especially after a glottal stop. It > > usually still is there, as a very weak [@]. ie. 'at the pool' [&?@ puM/]. > > I would understand that as "at a pool", so I doubt that version will catch > on, since it obliterates an essential distinction.
Well, it seems to be quite common in England, which means, I suppose that it has 'caught on', to some degree. Anyway, there are a few other effects - first, it glottalises the final consonant: (eg. Mac the cat [m&k_?_}@k&?] ( I know, that was a rather random example, but hey). In some cases, the schwa is completely ommited, and the preceding vowel [m&:kk&?]. As I mentioned before, it is very weak, almost so weak as to be undetectable. So I can predict, at least in those dialects, that the definite article is heading towards oblivion. It's odd...colloquial British speech is so far removed from standard english that it's barely similar. In TV programmes(even soaps) it's hugely watered down. And my dialect(which is what I'm taking these examples from), is pretty RP-ish. The standard greeting in British youth culture is 'alright?'. It generally sounds like [O@i?], with a rising tone. I sometimes wonder how (or if) Americans can understand us Brits having a conversation with each other in allegro colloquial speech.

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Joe <joe@...>
John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>Colloquial English English (was Re: Probability of Article Replacement?)
Joseph Fatula <fatula3@...>