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Re: Double-segmentation (Was: brz, or Plan B revisited)

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
Date:Sunday, September 25, 2005, 14:54
Hallo!

Patrick Littell wrote:

> On 9/22/05, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote: > > > > > There are many ways to achieve self-segregation. Jeff's solution > > is elegant and original, but far from the only one. A simple > > self-segregation system I once came up with has morphemes of the > > following structures: > > > > C > > CVC > > CVCVC > > CVCVCVC > > > > etc., i.e. alternating consonants and vowels beginning and ending > > with a consonant. In this system, all morpheme boundaries are > > marked by consonant clusters, and every consonant cluster marks > > a morpheme boundary. For example, _blaraktalmin_ can only be > > segmented as b-larak-tal-min. If every word has to begin with > > two consonants in a row (i.e., with a C morpheme), word-level > > self-segregation is also achieved. > > Quite clever! Self-segmentation is pretty easy, but a good method of > double-segmentation (morpheme and word) like this takes some thought.
Yes.
> This would also require, of course, that C morphemes could only occur > word-initially and word-finally. Internal C morphemes would lead to > word-level ambiguity.
C morphemes would have to be restricted to *one* end of the word, *either* initial *or* final. Otherwise, a single C between two other morphemes would be ambiguous as for to which word it belongs. Unless, of course, each word is required to have one C morpheme on *both* ends. But I'd now say that C morphemes should not exist, because they lead to awkward consonant clusters. I'd propose something else: 1. The language is exclusively suffixing. Nothing (except another root followed by /a/, see 5.) may precede the root. 2. Roots are alternating consonant-vowel sequences, beginning end ending with a consonant, with at minimum one vowel, i.e. CVC, CVCVC, CVCVCVC, etc. 3. Suffixes are alternating consonant-vowel sequences, beginning with a vowel and ending with a consonant, with at minimum one vowel, i.e. VC, VCVC, etc. 4. All vowels in a morpheme are the same, and only /e/, /i/, /o/ and /u/ occur. Each suffix has two allomorphs, one with the vowel /i/ and one with the vowel /u/. The /i/ allomorph is used after a morpheme with a back vowel; the /u/ allomorph is used after a morpheme with a front vowel. 5. In compounds, a vowel is inserted between the two roots that occurs neither in roots nor in suffixes: /a/. If I haven't made a mistake, this should be self-segregating at both morpheme level and word level. A change of vowel indicates a morpheme boundary before it (with the exception of /a/, which marks a boundary between two roots); two consonants without a vowel in between mark a word boundary.
> I would picture some grammatical category like person or number that > could occur on nouns, verbs, etc., marked obligatorily with a C > morpheme prefix. (Or as a suffix, of course.) Say, person is marked > on nouns for either the inherent person features of a noun or those of > its possessor, and on verbs for the subject. (Object could be marked, > too, 'cuz there's space for one more C morpheme word-finally.) > Nothing particularly unnatural about this.
That's also what I was thinking of when I proposed C morphemes at word boundaries.
> Also possible, although weird, is a requirement that the C morpheme > must be the 2nd morpheme in the word, or second-to-last, or etc. > > -------------- > > A couple other methods of naturalistically self-segmenting these on > the word level: > > 1) The final consonant of a morpheme must be a stop, and word-internal > sandhi rules cause them to fricativize: > > kotuk-qap-t-mit => kotuhqafsmit
An interesting idea. But the consonant clusters /hq/ and /fsm/ in your example are hideous.
> 2) The final consonant of a morpheme must not be a stop, and all words > undergo a word-final stop mutation. > > kotun-qam-s-min => kotunqamsmit > > And, of course, the many variations of these using different consonant > series, word- and morpheme-initial mutations rather than final ones, > etc.
Or encode morpheme boundaries in vowels, as I did above.
> Any more ideas?
See above. Greetings, Jörg.

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Patrick Littell <puchitao@...>