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Re: Date and time on Cindu: yearly update

From:Tristan McLeay <conlang@...>
Date:Monday, May 19, 2008, 0:38
Mark J. Reed wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:11 PM, ROGER MILLS <rfmilly@...> wrote: >> A common failing, self included......It's the goodwill that counts. > > I disagree. Too easily faked. :) > >> OMG I never even thought of that..... (Does UTC = GMT?) > > The short answer is "yes"(*). > > >> I was born sometime in the morning hours of May 23, in the Central Time Zone. > > US Central Time is nominally 6 hours west of GMT/UTC. Was Daylight > Saving Time in effect? These days it is in effect in the US on May > 23rd (and is in effect now), and C*D*T is only 5 hours west of > GMT/UTC. But IIRC your birth might predate its adoption. > > (*)Longer answer: the designation "Greenwich Mean Time"/"GMT" has been > used for two different time representations, 12 hours apart, and it is > the historical confusion between these two that led, on the occasion > of the adoption of a new standard for measuring time, to the > deprecation of the term "GMT" (which hasn't stopped anyone from > continuing to use it, of course) and the adoption of the term "UTC".
For whatever it's worth, the fact that there exists a new standard UTC doesn't mean that people stopped using the old standard GMT, so GMT would've been correct for a long time after the introduction of UTC. For instance, Australian time zones were based on GMT until a few years ago (so we would've skipped a few seconds at the end of one year, rather than just one every now and again). I have no idea if or when any other places have changed time zones... (We even have a defacto time zone over in eastern Western Australia/western South Australia of +8.45, being halfway between West Australia's official +8.00 and South Australia's official +9.30; whether in practice that's UTC+8.45 or GMT+8.45 would be hard to tell, and almost certainly completely irrelevant, there being no official definition or clock.) -- Tristan.

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