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Re: Advanced English to become official!

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Sunday, April 3, 2005, 0:20
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@A...> wrote:

> Well, then go and create your own spelling reform, rather than talking > someone else's work bad just because he's a "German".
Sheesh, as if there hadn't been enough reform proposals already. Heck, even I've done two of those in my early conlang days. I'll have to agree with the general opinion that the proposed spelling is suboptimal for the needs of the English language. You neglect several important phonemic distinctions, and some choices (like |ei eu| for [ai oi]) appear to have no other motivation than to make it look like German. In this light, the name "Advanced English" even seems to suggest that advanced = German. What would you think if somebody made a German spelling reform abolishing all umlauts and writing ch's as k's, since foreigners tend to mispronounce them anyway, and maybe spell /ai au S v/ as |ij ou sh v|, and have the nerve to call it "Advanced German"? Vie vurde dir das gefallen? Your ideas certainly have a certain appeal as a thought experiment, e.g. for a fictional alternate-history story setting where the Germans won WWII and "Germanized" the English world. If you want it to be fit for real-world English, it needs more work. And a more modest attitude wouldn't hurt either. -- Christian Thalmann PS: The most realistic English spelling reform (and I do agree that one is due) that I've heard proposed so far is to assign exactly one (the most common) pronunciation to each English grapheme, and regularize only those words which deviate. For example, |ea| would stand for [i:], so beard, hear, mean, read etc would all retain their spelling, but heart and head would become hart and hed. This way, English would still feel like English to the native speakers, and the reform would be much more likely to be accepted. Is there a website with an explicit "master plan" for this concept? If not, I'd be tempted to write up such a plan. Maybe with the help of a dedicated Yahoo!Group? Argh... please stop me before I fall for the auxlanger syndrome. ;o)

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