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Re: "Useful languages"

From:Clint Jackson Baker <litrex1@...>
Date:Friday, February 15, 2002, 14:43

--- Danny Wier <dawier@...> wrote:
> From: "Clint Jackson Baker" <litrex1@...> > > | I would also add Cherokee to the list, at least in > | theory. The expectation in Cherokee is for you to > | spell it the way it sounds, and if two people > spell > | something differently it's not a big deal because > it > | will be similar and mutually understood anyway. > | Actually, when Sequoyah was first developping the > | syllabary, he had over 250 symbols, because he was > | trying to account for every sound in spoken > Cherokee. > | Then he realized he was accounting for dialectal > | difference which wouldn't be necessary in the > written > | language and reduced the number considerably. > (BTW > | people usually say that there are 88 symbols in > the > | Cherokee syllabary. There are actually a few more > for > | variants--eg "na" vs. "hna".) > > I only see 85 in Unicode, unless there are some rare > variants that didn't get > included. >
Sorry, I *really* can't count. I must have been thinking of piano keys...
> | But, like I said, "in theory"... Like any > language, it > | has evolved beyond the written form, but it is > | understandable--at this stage in the game Sequoyah > is > | a national hero (meaning the Cherokee nation) and > | no-one would want to mess with his creation. For > | example, what was origianlly the sound /ts/ has > split > | into /ts/, /tS/, and /dZ/, yet they all use the > /ts/ > | symbols. > > Yeah, and "ta" and "da" are normally valued as /tha/ > and /ta/, with various > lenitions in different situations and dialects. Some > syllabrics can have four or > five possible pronunciations. Also, there's one > strange letter called "nah" (it > looks like a capital letter G), and I've never been > able to find its exact sound > value. > > ~Danny~ > >
My guess is that nah is pronounced like it's transliterated, /nah/, approaching /nax/. But IIRC it's fairly rare anyway. Oh, if only it were feasible to learn a tonal language out of a book! :c Clint
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Danny Wier <dawier@...>