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Re: CHAT: Ebonic Christmas

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Thursday, January 13, 2000, 16:37
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hoensch@SOFTHOME.NET wrote:

> Who of the complainers was actually black? Or are we > just a bunch of white guys whining as were brainwashed > to do so?
David Bell is "actually black" (he says so, and see his picture), and he was the first to respond.
> Oh, and the prospect that only a member of a people > can criticize/joke with those people is a rather pathetic > invention.
No, it reflects the realities of the distribution of power. (ObLang: I originally wrote "power distribution" and realized that that looks like what electrical wires do.)
> Abrigon, especcially if he is black (which was the impression > Gray Wizard gave),
I don't know where you get this impression.
> has done nothing wrong. > Do we know what free speech is?
No one has proposed sending Abrigon to jail, or even to Coventry. We are expressing our free-speech right of public criticism.
> And I have to say it is rather pitiful that until Gray Wizard > expressed his outrage, nobody else seemed to mind.
Say what? David's reaction was seven hours later than Abrigon's original posting. That is pretty quick for a small mailing list like this one, especially as the original post went out at 2:39 A.M., David's local time.
> Something does not become offensive just because TV says so.
A slur against <JEDR>s becomes a slur because the <JEDR>s say it is. There is no obvious reason why the term "Hep!" was offensive to 18th-19th century Jews, except that mobs howling the word regularly (who knows why; there are several specious theories) invaded their villages in Eastern Europe to rape, loot, pillage, burn, and kill.
> So how many of those fatally offended happens to be personally > offended as opposed to having an overactive, visually triggered > conscience?
Me, for one. "An attack on one is an attack on all." (IWW slogan) </flame> -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan <jcowan@...> Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)