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Re: Love Those Double Vowels (was: Diving In...)

From:SuomenkieliMaa <suomenkieli@...>
Date:Saturday, November 3, 2001, 15:29
--- David Peterson <DigitalScream@...> wrote:
> Why, look no farther than the world's most > perfect language, Hawaiian! ~:D
<chuckling> I love the smily face when you write about your beloved Hawaiian, David. ~:D Can't say I know anything about it, but the culture -to homeland Americaner me- I'm not too fond of. :-/ Well, to each his own! Chaqu'un a son gout! Jyuunin tou-iro!
> Of course, I see the two responses you've gone > have been like vowels in > trios...
Two replies from me? In regard to Vyh?
> Did you mean only vowels of the same quality, or > just vowels in general?
Vowels of the same quality, although as I mentioned about Finnish, a/omlaut (which I write as a:) and a are considered two separate vowels with two separate sounds, /&/ opposed to /a/. I like long-drawn vowels of the same quality like Dutch aa, but even better would be 2 vowels of the same vowel accompanied by another vowel with a similar quality (like Finn, a:a:anisinen ~:D -- I think I spelt that right). In Vyh, I'm creating a "vowel harmony" system -- and I've noticed that, due to the creator's own dis/likes, there tend to exist doubles of the same vowel that rival each other. For instance, the Vya:a:hns like /&/ sound (and love /&:/) but disliked its counter-part -- rival, if you will -- /a/ (and detest the sound /a:/). Or, the vowel _yy_ /Y:/ has a rival vowel _uu_ /u:/, so you often see positive-meaning words with such vowels like _a:_ or _yy_ or _L_ and negative-meaning words with their rival vowels like _a_ or _uu_ or _i_.
> Because if you stick two like vowels > together in Hawaiian, a > glottal stop is automatically inserted in between > (which is why it need not > be represented orthographically), so "Hawaii" is > [havAi?i]. And it, of > course, has three vowels next to each other. :)
Not quite, as you've got /a/ with /i:/. By the way, would that glottal stop be the reason why Hawaii is sometimes spelt as Hawai'i ? Hyyva:voaazenoxdjoo! Matt33 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com