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Re: Volition in Anohim

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Sunday, October 24, 2004, 4:14
You know I can't leave this message alone! :)  Volition is the meat and
drink of the active Teonim.  I'm still making mistakes in it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "bob thornton" <arcanesock@...>


> The nature of volition in Anohim is very complicated.
This sounds like a response to a question, Bob. Did I miss a thread that was called something else and developed into a discussion of volitionality?
> Whether a motion is voluntary or involuntary is always > marked. Several verbs, mainly of transference are also > always marked. Kill is considered a motive verb.
It is in Teonaht, too, but where the form of the word impedes (like lis (get) or den (tell), one can always tell from the article whether the subject is v or nv. So Teonaht has a peculiar kind of active system, one that has a volitional S along with a volitional V. Many of the verbs are ambivolitional (where the meaning changes), whereas as some are always volitional, others always non-volitional. So in some cases it is the subject that determines volitionality, and in other cases the verb. But both S and V have to be marked in some way.
> Volition sometimes changes the meaning of the word. > Get/take and kill/die are two volition pairs.
Lisned, bettairem in Teonaht: get/take. A subject with lis is the passive recipient of action, and lisned is often used to express what we call the "passive": aid bikar(em) eton-li lis. "The tree gets its chopping." There is a different word for "receive" that is volitional, since one can refuse to receive something. However, I don't see kill/die as a volitional pair so much as a subject/recipient pair. One can die at the hands of one who kills. One can die in one's bed. One can commit suicide. I've also noted that idioms in language don't necessarily have to make sense to us in our first language. But it sort of feels like making get/give a volitional pair. Do you see what I mean? Get/take I understand. In Teonaht, conceivably, one can kill by accident as in manslaughter. It's an important legal verb. Here are some verbs that are always volitional: say, talk, do, give, make, go, come, allow, decide, attack, read, write, chase, conquer, promise, command, doff, don, clothe, feed, cook, eat, drink, love, hate, prefer, holler, spit, pray, convict, berate, and a host of others. Here are some verbs that are always non-volitional: be, exist, be ignorant of, be absent, be present, be happy, sad, blue, fiery, stupid and a bunch of other stative verbs in T; get, sleep, fall asleep, wake up, sicken, vomit, bleed, die, dream, have (inalienable), beware, trip, fall down, etc. The ambivolitional verbs cover the senses, of course, and cognition: hear/listen to; see/watch or look at; smell/sniff; feel/touch or caress; taste/lick; know of/find out about; perceive/test etc. But the ambivolitional verbs, I find, as I write more and more in Teonaht, are a much bigger category than those verbs that are only one or the other: cry (in response to)/mourn; laugh (at a joke)/deride or make light of dislike/hate (to the point of malice) like/prefer stand (as a tree does)/stand up or take a stand lie (as a log does)/lie down, lie low follow (as a shadow does)/pursue live (breathe)/dwell breathe/draw breath bounce/rebound actively, return with renewed vigor die passively/commit suicide walk (as a clock or any machine part does)/walk somewhere stop/cease purposely sit (as a spoon does)/sit down rest (out of fatigue)/rest deliberately speed up (as a ball does rolling down a hill/hasten think (wandering thoughts)/contemplate be ignorant of/ignore believe (blindly)/believe something you've given thought to misspeak/lie make a mistake/be in wilful error defecate (shit one's pants)/defecate on will urinate (piss oneself)/urinate, relieve oneself etc. Then: boil (as water does)/boil something in a pot freeze (as water does)/freeze something heat up (as anger does)/heat someone up drown (as a swimmer does)/immerse end (as a play does)/put an end to (here we are getting into states and creating states, and these AV verbs are usually distinguished by intransitivity/transitivity. There is also a suffix (-ma) that turns an adjective or a nonvolitional intransitive into a volitional transitive: worry/make worried anger/make angered cool/make cold bleed/make bleed vomit/make vomit sleep/put to sleep put to sleep (because you are boring)/put to sleep (actively hypnotize) etc.
> Voluntary actions are marked with a rising tone and > the prefix a- /?&/- > > Involuntary actions are marked with a falling tone and > the prefix i- /?I/-
Do I detect a sense of hierarchy expressed by rising and falling tone? The Teonim, little elitests and warriors that they are, definitely privilege the agents over the experiencers. This attitude is challenged, though, in some contemplative practices where the experiencer is superior to the agent, the visionary superior to the false prophet.
> The tone is marked on the root, not the prefixes. > > EX1: > > I died (recently) (involuntarily)
Who's speaking?? Ghosts cannot use volitional verbs in Teonaht, nor can the Deity use non-volitional verbs, although the writers cheat by combining the non-volitional subject with a volitional verb. This is necessary to maintain semantic coherence in story-telling and religious instruction.
> Úv ponhúe ita^ng > > 1sg-BEN 1sg-be-NPAST-STAT die-INV > > I killed him (recently) (he died involuntarily) > > Uf jacúe whíz ita^ng > > 1sg-NOM 1sg-do-NPAST DEM-sentient being-far both-BEN > die-INV > > To show that an action is done by the subject > involuntarily, but is involuntarily experienced put > the BEN case on the one who is done unto, and put > noun-verb behind the BEN cased noun, and use the > subject's conjugation for the major verb. > > Reverse the scheme for the reversed volition. When > both are voluntary or both involuntary, volition is > not marked, but gathered from the connotation of the > phrase. > > If I am unclear, do please ask for elaboration, > > -The Sock.
Sounds good, Sock! :) Sal http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/verbs.html

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bob thornton <arcanesock@...>
Douglas Koller, Latin & French <latinfrench@...>