Re: Practicing pronounciation; consonant clusters

Chris Bates wrote:

>Are you sure you don't mean /Nm)/? I've never heard of a language with it
>the other way round... and order does matter, since languages with
>labial-velar stops, nasals etc (doubly articulated) generally have the
>velar closure occuring, then bilabial closure occuring afterwards, then the
>velar closure being released, then the bilabial closure being released.
Well, you know more than me about the subject then. :) I was just pointing
out that (using your notation) even if v b br vr is essentially
indistinguishable from [N], the others are.
But now that you mention it, I in fact do find it easiest if I start with
the velar closure and end with the bilabial. However, I wouldn't buy it that
[N_XNm)m_X] were the *only* realization found for /Nm)/ anywhere.


>If the two closures and releases overlap perfectly (or one set occurs
>within the other set) then the sound is pretty much impossible to reliably
>distinguish.
I can tell exact overlap out just fine too.

John Vertical