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Re: |dy| or [dz\] ? (bars or brackets?) Re: the sound of "DJ" (was Re new Unnamed Conlang)

From:J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 21, 2004, 14:03
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:43:09 +0200, Rodlox <Rodlox@...> wrote:

>> You must decide whether diacritical |-y| in your notations |jy|, >> |sy|, |zy| is systematical or not. If it is not, |jy| can be [J\]. >> But if it is, I propose either changing the orthography to |dy| or >> the pronuncuation to [J\j\] or better [dz\]. > > if I might ask, what is the difference between the vertical bars || and > the brackets [] ?
The vertical bars are used when one refers to a spelling (some'd use < > instead -- a German habit?). The square brackets are used when one refers to pronunciation (phonetics). Like this, you can say |know| is [n@U]. There's also a possibility to distinguish between phonemic and phonetic notation, phonemic notation being represented with slashes / /. However, not all linguistic theories recognize phonemes. Like this, you can say the /t/ in |stone| is [t] but the /t/ in |tone| is [t_h]. [g_0ry@s:] j. 'mach' wust