Re: Personal langs and converse of aux

Roger Mills sikayal:

> Jesse S.Bangs wrote:
>
>
> >Yoon Ha Lee sikayal:
> >
> >> > Aspirated stops distinct from unaspirated stops
> >> > Rounded front vowels
> >> > Unrounded back vowels
> >> > The phones [T] and [D]
> >> > The trilled /r/
> >> > The untrilled American English /r/
> >>
>
> My bugaboos:  uvular trill, and tones.
Uvular trill I can manage, although I can't really distinguish between the
uvular trill and the voiced uvular fricative.

Tones . . . <<shudder>>

> >There are other oddities, too, in people's phonetic ability.  I can
> >pronounce the rounded front vowels without too much difficulty, but I
> >can't distinguish [o] from [C>
>
> West Coast dialect, principally.  But I'd have to hear it to believe it.
> Coat/caught?
> low/law? sow, sew/saw? row/raw?
All of these are [@u] or [Vu] (not sure of exact phonetic value) in the
first example and simply [a] in the second.  There may be *very* slight
rounding on the vowel, but in that case it would be a falling diphthong
[Qa].  In any case, there is no rounded back non-high monophthong in my
dialect of English, although there are some monophthongal allophones, like
'goal' [gOl] (I think.  It may be [gol], but my problem of course is that
I can't distinguish them.)

>
Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu
"It is of the new things that men tire--of fashions and proposals and
improvements and change.  It is the old things that startle and
intoxicate.  It is the old things that are young."
-G.K. Chesterton _The Napoleon of Notting Hill_
Conlanger code: CLI> l%p+++ cS:R:N:H a++ y n18d:6 X+++ A-- E-- L-- N2.5
Idmp k++ ia-- p+ m++ o+++ P d++ b++ Yivríndil