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Rhotics (was: Chinese Dialect Question)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Thursday, October 2, 2003, 18:35
On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 07:40 , JS Bangs wrote:

> trills and some approximants. Rhotics are perceptually alike, so an > English speaker saying [r`] and a German speaker saying [R] recognize that > they're both making "r sounds", despite the fact that they're articulatory > very dissimilar.
And, indeed, many languages have variation among the speakers of the same language. The most common German pronunciation is now [R] but apically trilled [r] is also found (it probably lost popularity in the latter half of the 20th cent. because Hitler used the trilled [r]). Modern French speakers commonly use the Parisian approximant [R], but I have certainly heard both the uvular trilled [R\] and apically trilled [r] , the latter being a mark rural, southern speakers. Welsh /r/ is always trilled; the most common pronunciation is the apical trill, but in parts of the north the uvular trill is used. As for English as spoken in Britain, one meets quite a variety of local variants.
> Furthermore, most languages have exactly one rhotic, so > the use of Latin {r} to represent whichever rhotic a language has is > indeed a point of consistency.
I agree. Ray =============================================== (home) (work) ===============================================


Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>