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Re: Rhotics (was: Chinese Dialect Question)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Friday, October 3, 2003, 18:11
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 08:06 , Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> En réponse à Ray Brown : > > >> Modern French speakers commonly use the Parisian approximant [R], but I >> have certainly heard both the uvular trilled [R\] and apically trilled >> [r] >> , the latter >> being a mark rural, southern speakers. > > Actually, the approximant is anything *but* Parisian. The mark of a > Parisian accent until up to WWII was that they had the uvular trill [R\]
Like Piaf's "je ne regrette rien" :)
> rather than the uvular approximant [R]. Nowadays, [R\] is mostly dead > though.
Mostly, but - thankfully - not entirely. The priest who officiated at my son's wedding trilled his uvular very vigorously - marvellous stuff. And he wasn't some ancient duffer left over from the WWII era - I would guess he was in his 30s or 40s.
> The approximant is the mark of Northern accents rather than Parisian > accents.
Oui , tu as raison - je me trompe :((( Ray =============================================== (home) (work) ===============================================