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Re: Heyas all!

From:Trace Erin Kern <tracefox@...>
Date:Saturday, March 27, 1999, 10:11
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:54:32 -0500 Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> writes:
>Trace Erin Kern wrote: >> As for what I mean by 'creating'...One author gave me the advice to >use >> the species culture as a language base. A militaristic species will >> likely have alot of harsh gutteral <sp?> phonetics, where a more >relaxed >> or perhaps reptillian species will have alot of soft and sibilant >sounds. > >Well, those are more like prejudices than good advice. A pacifistic >society could have a language with tons of gutturals, and a warlike >people could have lots of /l/'s and /s/'s. Actually, that might >create >some interesting phrases, say, the gentle-sounding [lasaja masina] >means >"prepare to die, Earth-scum", while the harsh-sounding [qaQt'a?aGH >Gqa?] >means "we wish to help your world".
Good point. Biology more than culture shapes what sounds a language possesses.
>> Sort of. I've had the 'alien' words floating around in my head for >a >> while, then decided to give temporary meaning to them. This >translation >> isn't part of a full language unfortunately. > >Cool. It could be the beginning of a conlang. I assume you have a >pronunciation for that? If so, start with those sounds, and expand >on it, to give you your phonology, and then break down the words >in some way into morphemes, and assign meanings, so for
I understood half of what you just said. <sheepish grin> Anyways, as for pronounciation: Caps = long vowel IE blAde Hah'Rooqh - two syllables, Hah <ah> Rooqh <rUk> with partial trilling of the R. Tah'Khrine - two syllables, short sounding <ta> followed by <krEEn> again, with a trilled R. Eayl - two syllables, <E> <ale> Noh'Tahl - <no> with a partially silent H, <tall> again with H partially silent. Not sure of the correct terminology for all that, but there it is in layman's terms. I see one thing though... An H followed by R would seem to trill the R. A vowel followed by an H tends to make the H only partially silent. As in the word Ahhh. <Ahhh, I see> Not sure why I added the apostrophes where they are, but could mean something.
>Hah'Rooqh Tah'Khrine, Eayl Noh'Tahl >May you go in peace, all your journey > >you could have: > >Hah'-Rooqh Tah'-Khri-ne, Eay-l Noh'-Tahl >In-Peace May-go-you, you-possessive all-journey > >Thus, by this break-down, it appears that this language inflects >verbs >for person, and either has some sort of case system, or simply >attaches >prepositions to words (decide, for instance, how adjectives would be >dealt with, in-red house or red in-house or in-red in-house, to >figure >if it's a case or a preposition). It also has a prefix for >blessings. >Most likely, it would have prefixes for things like imperatives >(perhaps >VanKhrine = go!). Is the apostrophe a sound, like glottal stop, or >does >it separate prefixes from their stem, as Steg Belsky has done with >Rokbeigalki (sp?)? Or perhaps h' is a single unit. > >These are just a few ideas, you could do whatever you want with it, >of >course. Actually, I rather like Noh'Tahl for journey. Maybe I'll >adapt >it as _pinuta'l_ (pi- = gender 7) for Watya'i'sa.
Again, I understood maybe half of what you said. But if you wish to derive something from this phrase for your own conlang, I have no objections. <grin> As long as you help me out with my own stuff? Trace Erin Kern - TraceFox@juno.com ~Hah'Rooqh Tah'Khrine, Eayl Noh'Tahl~ ~May you go in peace, all your journey~ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]