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Re: Zaik! (Hi there!) - Description of Lyanjen

From:Matt McLauchlin <matt_mcl@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 29, 2000, 9:49
>Welcome to the list, from a fellow gay Canadian conlanging linguist who
likes
>Montreal (I spent a semester hanging out in the linguistics department at
McGill
>a few years ago, working on Malagasy).
Oy... you sound like my third boyfriend (the eccentric gay Canadian Esperantist of Scottish descent into conlanging too - although he doesn't actually conlang, he just reads other peoples'). Malagasy, eh? Did you have Prof. Travis?
>As someone else whose conlang makes creative use of case-marking, I must
say I'm
>quite interested in your nominative/ergative/absolutive system. Could you
give
>some more information on how it works? From your few examples, it appears
that
>the ergative case is associated with agents, absolutive case with patients >(anything undergoing a change of location or state), and nominative with
themes
>(arguments of states). Is that right?
Something like that. Here are some other usages: Iar skici clairan. I-erg break-past-prog window-abs. "I broke the window." Skici clairan. break-past-prog window-abs "The window broke/got broken." There's no passive voice. Literally, you could say "clair staï r'skicand" (the window was being broken), but that would sound very very foreign. However, a similar construction "clair staer r'skicaband" (the window is [having-been-]broken) is possible.