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Re: Phonologically redundant vocabulary

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, April 14, 2006, 13:45
Jim Henry skrev:
> A while ago there was a thread about using phonologically > redundant vocabulary (no minimal pairs). I've been working > (intermittently) on methods and scripts to generate lists > of such words. I started writing something which turned > out to be a bit long for a listgroup post, so here it is as > an article on my website:
Kijeb tends in that direction, although being a naturalistic artlang. Being severely math-challenged (not kidding: <>) I didn't think in terms of n- dimensional matrices but in terms of phoneme co-occurrences that didn't suit my lámatyáve as expressed in Kijeb <>. I generated a list of possible roots using John Cowan's <>, then ran this list through a self-written perl script to eliminate roots with unwanted phoneme co-occurrences. John's script has provision for excluding contiguous unwanted letter combinations like _yi, iy, wu, uw, kwy, gwy_ or two vowels after one another, and preventing certain clusters from (co)occurring, but I also wanted to exclude the same consonant, as well as two stops or fricatives at the same point of articulation or two nasals, from occurring twice in the same word, so I used regular expressions like /([$C]).*\1/ and /([pbf]).*([pbf])/ to exclude unwanted roots. FWIW /s/ got special treatment so that /st/ and /sd/ [zd] were allowed, but OTOH /s/ can't occur twice in the same word. I also excluded some combinations from occuring root-initially (i.e. they are not allowed in the same syllable, but allowed across the syllable boundary), and finally I applied some randomness in insering _y_ /j/ at the end of consonant clusters and after consonants. Clearly I could have gone further, e.g. preventing /u/ and labial consonants, or /j/ and /i/, from occuring together in the same root at all, omitting the contrast between dentals and velars before /i/ and /j/, or preventing two roots from differing only in their vowel (although the latter would have decreased the number of possible roots very much, since Kijeb has only three vowels. -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se "Maybe" is a strange word. When mum or dad says it it means "yes", but when my big brothers say it it means "no"! (Philip Jonsson jr, age 7)


Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>