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Elves and Ill Bethisad

From:Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>
Date:Sunday, October 19, 2003, 23:07
--- John Cowan <cowan@...> wrote:
> J?rg Rhiemeier scripsit: > > > I feel reluctant to re-introduce them to Ill > > Bethisad because > > > > (1) I think they put a strain on that world's > > framework; > > The other two points are personal to you, of > course; but this one, > at least, is not the case. The Elves are no > more a problem than the > Kashubians. And it neatly explains what > IB-JRRT was up to.
This is true.
> > (2) I experienced miscellaneous > > communication problems when taking part in > > Ill Bethisad;
Irrelevant. Anyway, it's past history; and those problems are apparantly solved.
> > (3) in my opinion, Ill Bethisad has moved > > into a direction I don't prefer.
You think you're alone in this opinion?
> IMO, IB has moved in so many directions > simultaneously that there is > no longer much point in speaking of it "moving > into a direction".
It has rather developped a blob mentality in that respect. ;)
> I regret that some people have bailed out,
That's their choice. They'd be welcome back any time.
> and it's plain that some > cultures (like the Fortunatians) couldn't > possibly fit there: the > whole of history is inconsistent.
Makes sense. The more is learned about either alternate universe, the more unlikely is a merger. And anyway, if IB had swallowed up FI early on, we'd lose an interesting alternate world in its own right.
> > I have gone through that hassle *twice*, and > > it ended in > > frustration on both sides both times. > > Costentin/Padraic seems > > to have disliked my "Elves" from the start,
Sir, you may address me in the second person. I am present, accounted for and am addressing you! I don't recall disliking them at all - but I suspect that's all water passed through the dike now.
> > But as Padraic is the one where all the > > threads run together > > Umm, I think both he and I would contest that!
Certainly. I have relatively little to do with IB. I just make sure the fire is stoked and the web page is updated. Certainly most of the activity has of late been centered on other locations and other participants. Jorg Rhiemeier scrievit:
>> Also, I am curious. Why do you call your Elves >> "Elves" if they are normal humans?
> Let me elaborate. They are the descendants of > an ancient civilization that existed in the > British Isles prior to the coming of the Celts. > The Germanic traditions of Elves (OE _ylfe_) > are a distorted memory of past contacts with > that civilization, and the Germanic people as >
well as the Celts attributed magical powers to
> them. The Anglo-Saxons, upon arriving on the > British scene, identified them with the _ylfe_.
Thank you for the explanation.
> But as Padraic is the one where all the > threads run together, I found it is not worth >
the trouble. Yes, I can make things not worth the trouble, can't I?
> Let me point out that Andrew hasn't been happy > about the way the Ill Bethisad project was > moving either, and he is the one who started > it all with his superb Brithenig language.
Very old news. Also, he never applied the brakes. And for that matter, neither have I.
> Andrew and I came up with the idea of starting > Ill Bethisad all over again,
Curiouser and curiouser. Extremely curious, in fact...
> a project that later received the name > "Dragon & Star" after the heraldic devices of >
Kemr and the Elves. However, Dragon & Star has > seen little work by either Andrew or me so far. Hm. Shame. Padraic. ===== - Nos côsez yen fin xristianós et trancouil - Côsez-el a Ddon! -- Ill Bethisad -- <> Come visit The World! -- <> .


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