Re: Trigger systems

Dans un courrier daté du 14/02/00 15:06:54  , Christophe a écrit :

>  It won't be right now however, as I still have to work a little on it. My
>  problem is not the trigger system by itself, but the verbal system in
>  general. It uses a lot of nominal sentences (even for actions like
>  motion!), even with verbs (in a special nominal form) to make negative
>  sentences. My main problem is to find out what nominal forms I should have
>  (I'm thinking of something more original than infinitive and participle,
>  even more original than noun of action, something like deverbal nouns for
>  actor, patient, etc...).
>
>  It reminds me of a question I wanted to ask: in the active sentence "I take
>  the book", "I" is the agent (or actor, I think they are pretty much the
>  same), "the book" is the patient. But in "I see the book", "I" is the
>  experiencer, but how do you call "the book"? experiencee? And in "I look at
>  the book", if "I" is clearly actor, "the book" doesn't seem like a patient
>  for me. Is this also an experiencee?
>  This question is important for me because I want to make a distinction
>  between all those roles in my trigger system (that would allow me to use
>  the same verb with various meanings :) ).
>
if you consider a role as a "link" between each core actor and its behaviour
("+") then there are an infinite number of roles each one worth its own
terminology.
but from my own experience natlangs class all roles in a limited number
of categories of behaviour depending on directions and aspects.
your example of "to see" is typical of that. in "i see the book", you could
consider
"book" as a reference, a topic, or even a result (image of a book) depending
of
the aspect you grasp the action from. for instance you could say :
"the book is the topic of my vision", "the book is the image by me", etc.
it's only a question of choosing a pattern of behaviour.
you could track these patterns in nouns : "building" is a physical result
or goal of the action of building or the action of building an object hence
called "building".
if you break down all processes into sequences (start, end, progress, etc.)
and consider each sequence from the stance of each possible actor, this makes
a lot of "roles" or cases or verbal nouns or words...

mathias




>                                                  Christophe Grandsire
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