Re: Trigger systems

At 14:29 14/02/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Anyway... I'm also looking forward to seeing how this is handled
>in Itakian, Christophe.
>
Ha! two people interested in the trigger system in Itakian, that's enough
for me to bore the rest of the list with a new long post about Itakian :) .
It won't be right now however, as I still have to work a little on it. My
problem is not the trigger system by itself, but the verbal system in
general. It uses a lot of nominal sentences (even for actions like
motion!), even with verbs (in a special nominal form) to make negative
sentences. My main problem is to find out what nominal forms I should have
(I'm thinking of something more original than infinitive and participle,
even more original than noun of action, something like deverbal nouns for
actor, patient, etc...).

It reminds me of a question I wanted to ask: in the active sentence "I take
the book", "I" is the agent (or actor, I think they are pretty much the
same), "the book" is the patient. But in "I see the book", "I" is the
experiencer, but how do you call "the book"? experiencee? And in "I look at
the book", if "I" is clearly actor, "the book" doesn't seem like a patient
for me. Is this also an experiencee?
This question is important for me because I want to make a distinction
between all those roles in my trigger system (that would allow me to use
the same verb with various meanings :) ).

                                                Christophe Grandsire
                                                |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G.

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