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Re: CHAT: fiery spirits (was: THE WORLD OF THE JINN)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Friday, October 17, 2003, 5:48
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 11:48 , Andreas Johansson wrote:

> Quoting Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>:
[snip]
>> But Tolkien's elves, surely, were not spirits or 'invisible beings' that >> could reveal themselves on occasion. They seem basically flesh & blood, >> tho >> fairer than us homines sapientes. > > Is pluralizing species names like that kosher?
Probably not - but how can you expect one brought up in the classics to use singular 'homo sapiens' in apposition to the plural 'us'? :) [snip]
>> Maybe - Paracelsus, I seem to recall, posited beings for each of the >> 'four >> elements'; 'salamanders' (not the amphibians thus names) IIRC were the >> fire-spirits, >> sylphs the air-spirits, ondines the water spirits and gnomes the earth >> spirits. > > I believe the spelling's _undines_, but otherwise, that would be correct.
Your belief is correct. I'm exposed too much to French.
>> I would guess all religions (certainly most) have beliefs in spirit >> beings >> of >> one sort or another. They are interesting per_se. > > What's arguably problematic here is that "spirit being" is a very vague > concept.
Yep. What I mean is non-material, not of this physically perceived world. Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com (home) raymond.brown@kingston-college.ac.uk (work) ===============================================

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