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Re: Worthwhile Engelang Goal

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 7, 2005, 1:57
Hi!

Rene's posting reminded me to answer, too:

David J. Peterson wrote:
>... > Though, another idea I'm having too late is showing where a given > conlanger creates their *own* sound symbolism. >... > Anyway, have any others done things like this? Or perhaps a > better question: Those who have done this (intentionally or > unintentionally), would you care to share? ...
Ok, I lied. No, I simplified... :-P In Tyl Sjok, some of the vocab is indeed constructed instead of randomised. I just couldn't resist, it seems. :-) Words starting with j- indicate sentients, humans, or related concepts, and pronouns. Further, the pronoun's vowel quality is constructed. The vowel 'far away' from the speaker makes 'you' and the one closest makes 'I/we/me'. The one in between make 'he/she/it/they'. So you get: je - you jo - I/we ja - he/she/it/they The sentient words: jan - man jas - woman jal - old person jul - parent jat - young person, child jut - son, daughter jax - spouse, husband, wife jux - brother, sister Further, Tyl Sjok has jet - to love jes - ghost, spirit, mind, intelligence; to think jyku - heart, spirit juna - family jyx - person, someone jun - body Yet, there are exceptions: jetys - cherry I think that's about the construction and symbolism. As one can see, introducing symbolism introduces bias -- something I wanted to reduce. But I just noticed that 'jun' fits in the 'jul, jut, jux' series and by analogy, one might think it relates to 'jan'. Although it's pure coincidence, it's clearly against my own construction goals for that languages. I should've only used the random generator. :-) The problem was that when I did that to decide the words for 'man' and 'woman' (I chose them by random in that order) the two results were 'il' and 'la'. No-one would've believed they were randomised, so I started constructing bias-free words... **Henrik

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