Re: The letter j\

--- Muke Tever <alrivera@...> wrote:
> From: "Raymond Brown" <ray.brown@...>
> > >This one /j\/ isn't a voiced, palatal stop, but a
> voiced, palatal fricative.
> >
> > Yep, [j\] is the voiced equivalent of German
> ich-laut.  IME the Spanish /j/
> > is often pronounced this way, at least by Spanish
> speakers from Spain (I
> > don't know about Latin American varieties).  I'd
> be suprised if any
> > language had /j\/ and /j/ as separate phonemes.
>
> Well, I usually hear [j\] for consonantal /j/
> (spelled <ll> and <y>), but not
> vocalic /j/ (spelled <i> before another vowel).
>
> So...some might have a minimal pair between <hiena>
> "hyena" and <llena> "full"
> (first pair that comes in my dictionary).
I think that dialects that pronounce <ll> as /j\/ tend
to move <y> to /dZ/, so <llena> would be /"j\e na/ and
<hiena> would be /"dZe na/, which explains that
humorous story a friend told me about the Mexican who
would pronounce <yellow> as <Jell-O>.

>     *Muke!
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-- Levi Tooker, nerd525@yahoo.com


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