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Re: Grammar in HS (Was: Re: Argument Structures)

From:Irina Rempt <ira@...>
Date:Friday, August 25, 2000, 13:57
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, JJ wrote:

> Well, over "here" (UK) I didn't learn any of that. I remember that my > French teacher was always annoyed because no one knew ANYTHING about > grammar, we had some people who couldn't reliably distinguish a verb > from a noun.
I did learn something called "ontleden" (literally "dissection", taking sentences apart into constituent parts) but I can't remember how much of it was in school and how much from my mother and the cousin (6 years older than me) who was living with us when I was in primary school. Secondary school teachers complain that it's not being taught (30 years later), but I think they also complained that children came to school not knowing enough when it *was* being taught. I think foreign-language teaching would go a lot better if primary schools taught *language* - universals and patterns - instead of *grammar* - a formalized framework of their own language which tells nothing about *how* it works. Irina -- Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. irina@valdyas.org (myself) http://www.valdyas.org/irina/valdyas