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Re: Ideas for Beddel-shaedhem

From:bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>
Date:Sunday, August 18, 2002, 16:06
 --- Clint Jackson Baker <litrex1@...> wrote: >
Hello!
> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I should be working more on > Káyasánoda so I can get the site up. But an idea > struck me out of nowhere yesterday that would work > great for Beddel-shaedhem (a lang that looks like OE > or Icelandic without necessarily borrowing much from > them). I had long thought of the use of auxiliary > verbs, and how in this lang they would have much > more > the feel of a clitic, ie no meaning independent of > the > verbal phrase, unlike auxiliaries in English. Then > yesterday in a conversation I had, I came up with a > rather striking reliationship between "to do", "to > be", and "to have". I thought of them as having > active, passive, and middle voices, respectively. > So > I thought that in B-sh, there would be one verb for > all three, just conjugated differently. Then, to > serve their functions in a verb, they would become > the > *endings* of the verbs. > > Let me make up some nonce examples to illustrate. > (I'll keep them as close to English as possible > while > still fulfilling B-sh phonological requirements. > > Let's say this superverb is, gaen /g{n/ > 1st PERS SING: > Active: gae /g{/ > Middle: gay /gai/ > Passive: gey /gei/ > > Ey gae oen taensem. > I do a dance. > > Ey gay oen taensem. > I have a dance. (I know how to do a dance.) > > Ey gey oen taensem-beddel. > I am a dancer. (I am a dance-person.) > > Gebben = "give" forms > > Ey gebae oen boccem. > I give a book. > > Ey gebay oen boccem. > I have a book [which may be given in the future.] > > Ey gebey oen boccem. > I received a book. I was given a book. > > How does this look to everyone? Is it clear enough? > Thanks! > Clint >
looks lovely. but how about getting rid of voiced stops, like icelandic and scots gaelic. so g=[k] and k=[k_h]. if you then use regressive assimilation to devoice continuants in contact with aspirated stops (as icelandic does ) you get the most gorgeous phonology ( the word |ekkert| being rendered ["Ehk_hEr_0t] ) then again you only wanted it to look like the language, not sound like as well bn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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