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Re: Reinventing NATLANGs

From:Michael Adams <abrigon@...>
Date:Monday, July 10, 2006, 17:58
Sorry I was putting the cart before the horse.

What I was taught, was that Luther translated the bible into the
local dielect or close to (regional dielect), of German, that
later became the "Official" langage we call German. It was
already a sort of lingua franca of the region, with it being a
trade and cultural center.. College for one helped alot, and
being on major trade routes. Kept the language thriving, able to
stay strong, but also able to add and keep up on things.. Like
any major city that has alot of people coming/groing, the local
dielect is ... not sure, how would you all say it?

Yes, what we call Germany was not a country until 1870, it had
been for the most part the Holy Roman Empire, but then you have
the Austro-Hungarian, let along German colonies or there was
colonies all over eastern Europe, from what was Yugoslavia to
Russia.. Let alone the Yiddish speaking Jewish communites
(seperate from the Ladino speaking ones).

I still love the comment in the movie "Dirty Dozen" about the
commando, whose family I remember was from Silesia or was it
from what is now the Czech Republic? Who could not understand
some of the German officers cause their dielect was just to far
from his.. From stories from my dad who was stationed in Germany
in the 1950s, you could go from valley to valley and find a new
dielect or atleast major shading to German.. That the valleys
isolating people that much, wild..

Budwiser the beer, comes from what is now in the Czech or Slovak
Republic!? Local brew originally?

Does add a thought, I think we have talked about before, is how
to keep your Conlang when it becomes a AUX or NATLang, How to
keep it One and not fragment into many accents, dielects and
separate languages?

Germany and Italy and to a point France, is still going through
the "what it the official" way to speak. US does it as well, but
our news announcers seem to help on this?

Latin for the EU? Grin..

Mike
Alaska


----- Original Message -----
From: "Henrik Theiling" <theiling@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: Reinventing NATLANGs


> Hi! > > Carsten Becker writes: > > ... 'Hochdeutsch' refers to the Upper German dialects such
as the
> > Bavarian, Frankish and Allemanic. ... > > No, that's 'Oberdeutsch'. > > **Henrik