Re: vowel scheme for new language
| From: | Carlos Thompson <carlos_thompson@...> |
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| Date: | Sunday, May 23, 1999, 4:16 |
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Matt Pearson wrote:
> On Wed, 19 May 1999, dunn patrick w wrote:
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> > Does this sound like a plausible vowel scheme?
> >
> > a -- low back
> > e -- mid front
> > i -- high front
> > o -- round low back
> > u -- round mid front
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> If by "plausible" you mean "likely to occur in natural languages",
> I would have to say no. Human languages prefer to have 'balanced'
> vowel systems, e.g.:
>=20
> i u
> a
>=20
> Or: i u
> @
> a
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> Or: i u
> e o
> a
I somehow like unbalanced systems (but never as Dunn's proposals. The =
system used in Hangkerimce is:
i u
E
A
With many allophonies, and shifts... (for example, an <a> near a =
stressed <u> would become a rounded [Q] or [O], but near a stressed <i> =
would become [a] or [&]).
Some othe posibility I've playing around lately
i 1 M
e
E V
a
where M stands for unrounded u and 1 for middle i (i barred in IPA).
Or an eight system like
i M,u
E V,O
A,Q
where Q is the rounded A.
Anyhow, English is not completely balanced.
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- =BFPor qu=E9 no?
- No tiene sentido.
- =BFQu=E9 sentido? El sentido no existe.
- El sentido inverso. O el sentido norte. El sentido com=FAn, tal =
vez. O sin sentido, como aqu=ED.
(-- Graeville 2)
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Matt Pearson wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>> On Wed, 19 May 1999, dunn patrick w =
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<BR>> > Does this sound like a plausible vowel scheme?<BR>>=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I somehow like unbalanced systems (but never as =
Dunn's=20
proposals. The system used in Hangkerimce is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2> i u</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2> E</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2> =
A</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>With many allophonies, and shifts... (for example, =
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<a> near a stressed <u> would become a rounded [Q] or [O], =
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a stressed <i> would become [a] or [&]).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Some othe posibility I've playing around =
lately</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> i 1 M</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> e</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> E V</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>where M stands for unrounded u and 1 for middle i (i =
barred in=20
IPA).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Or an eight system like</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2> i M,u</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2> E =
V,O</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2> =
A,Q</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>where Q is the rounded =
A.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyhow, English is not completely =
balanced.</FONT></DIV>
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