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Re: Dictionaries of agglutinating languages

From:The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 3, 2000, 10:06
> From: Roger Mills > > >Adrian Morgan wrote: > >> > >> Robert Hailman wrote: > >> > >> > I haven't seen any dictionaries of any languages of a > similar nature to > >> > yours, but my idea is to only put in words the meaning of which can't > be > >> > derived easily by the root & the affixes; or perhaps you could only > >> > include the words using uncommon affixes. > >> > >> Well, quite. The problem is in defining 'derived easily' and 'common'. > >> These qualities /can't/ be defined except as one end of a very fuzzy > >> and subjective continuum -- but to compile a dictionary I have to be > >> definitive. > > > >Very true. Another idea: Provided all these affixes are regular in how > >they alter the meaning of the root, just put the root words in the > >dictionary, and have an appendix at the end with a table of all the > >affixes.> > > This last would be my approach. I'm not familiar with how Turkish > dictionaries are organized, but Indonesian, while not agglutinative, has > very consistent, transparent (and limited) derivational > morphology. So you > will have the head word XXXX: followed by its various derivs., as well as > compounds, idioms etc. There has to be occasional cross-referencing, > since some few forms might derive ambiguously-- e.g. (*) > /peNatak/ could be > < peN+katak, peN+atak or even pe(N)+Natak. (Base-initial /N/ is > quite rare, > and often the result of "wrong division".) The dictionary I use has no > separate list of affixes (though that might be a good idea). > > ObConlang: The Kash dictionary is organized along similar lines.
The approach I took with amman iar was to organize the dictionary/lexicon by root followed by the derived forms. See a sample of this at http://graywizard.net/Conlinguistics/amman_iar/ai_lexicon.htm. David