Re: [Just a Little Taste of Judean]

On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:41:02 CDT Edward Heil <edwardheil@...> writes:
>Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> wrote:
>> He gave me a few different nouns in Latin with their declensions, so
>here
>> are the Judean evolutions:
>> (i hope he didn't leave out marking the Latin long vowels)
>Bad news.  He did leave out marking the long vowels, and got at least
>one word
>in the wrong declension.
>> Latin Nominative (singular genitive, plural genitive)
>> "manus" (mani, manorum)
>This is not a second declension noun, it's a fourth:
>  "manus" (manu:s, manu:m)
Hrrm...then this would probably stay the same, since it's got that long
vowel there....
written _manu:s_ (: = macron), pronounced /manuwS/
or it could be just _manu:_, /manuw/.
or _manu'_, /man'u/, and *then* the vowel would become long for the
plural _manu:m_!
Yup, that looks good :) , it keeps the long-vowel-M from before.

manu' / manu:m
(abnormal accentuation on _manu'_, hence the accent.  normally, it'd be
on the last long vowel, or like here, without one, on the penultimate
syllable)

>> "puella" (puellae, puellarum)
>  "puella" (puellae, puella:rum)
Dammit, i liked having _Vr_ turn into _V:_, ohwell.... :)
So i guess this ends up the same as before, just that instead of being
lengthened, the A: remains the same.

pela / pela:m

>> "pons" (pontis, pontum)
>  "po:ns" (pontis, pontum)
So, the lengthening in the nominative case doesn't affect this, same
thing as before! :)

ponso` ['ponSO<dvcd>] / pontu:m
(devoiced vowels can't voice "sayas" letters, and the U lengthened by
association with the long vowels of other plurals)

>> "casa" (casae, casarum)
>  "casa" (casae, casa:rum)
Same as before:

casa [kaZa] / casa:m [kaZa:m]

>> "pectus" (pecti, pectorum)
>This is third declension, not second.
>  "pectus" (pectoris, pectorum)
>(it is a coincidence that "orum" was correct here.  -orum is not the
>ending
>for this declension, it's just -um.  But the stem is pector-.)
Okay, this becomes totally different....hrmmm...

pectoris >> pecto:is [pEktowIS] >> pecto:s >> pecto' [pEx'to]

I'm not sure if this can be rationalized as easy as the manu:s >> manu'
above, since it's a whole syllable dropping off.  hrrm...well, if i can
drop off the -ru- in all the -a:rum's and -o:rum's, i can drop off the
-ris here! :)

pecto' [pex'to] / pecto:m [pex'towm]

>Cool changes, but you need a better Latin advisor, I'm afraid!  I
>wouldn't
>mind someone checking up on my corrections, too, cause they're from
>memory and
>intuition; I don't have my books handy to check myself, and there
>might be
>some errors (a:rum sounds right to me but I'm not totally sure about
>it, for example).
(clipped lots of Latin info)

>That should get you through all the regular declensions. :)
>---------------------------------------------------------
>Edward Heil .......................... edwardheil@usa.net

Thanks!


-Stephen (Steg)
 "God punishes - humans take revenge."

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