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Re: THEORY: Non-nom Subj & Nom Obj -- Quirky OVS Word Order Or Quirky Case?

From:Markus Miekk-oja <m13kk0@...>
Date:Monday, August 8, 2005, 15:12
>From: Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@listserv.brown.edu >Subject: Re: THEORY: Non-nom Subj & Nom Obj -- Quirky OVS Word Order Or >Quirky Case? >Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 02:03:45 +0200 > >Hi! > >tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> writes: > > Thanks for writing, Henrik. > >Pleasure! > > >... > > > IIRC, it was Markus who mentioned this a few days ago. > > > > I remember Markus's answer as being helpful, informative, ... > >Nono, he had a posting about different subject structures in German >and Icelandic and I asked what the difference was. One thing he >mentioned was coordinated clauses (the other thing was reflexives). >But he said by his understanding, German did not allow non-nominative >subjects. I *currently* disagree, but there are so many strange that >it is possible to convince me with good arguments.
I didn't say it doesn't allow non-nominative subjects, only that the non-nominative subjects have different features from the average subjects (such as different features as far as reflexive binding and such goes) , and that this needs to be accounted for. My proposed solution - which I at the moment don't know how to test - is that the non-nom subjects are embedded in the subject phrase in a way that the nominative subjects are not. (I have been thinking of "agreement" a bit lately too, since I am of the opinion that this is a form of agreement.) I have been away for a couple of days, and therefore unable to respond. I'll read through the rest of the discussion promptly. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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