Re: THEORY: Non-nom Subj & Nom Obj -- Quirky OVS Word Order Or Quirky Case?
From: | Markus Miekk-oja <m13kk0@...> |
Date: | Monday, August 8, 2005, 15:12 |
>From: Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
>Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...>
>To: CONLANG@listserv.brown.edu
>Subject: Re: THEORY: Non-nom Subj & Nom Obj -- Quirky OVS Word Order Or
>Quirky Case?
>Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 02:03:45 +0200
>
>Hi!
>
>tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> writes:
> > Thanks for writing, Henrik.
>
>Pleasure!
>
> >...
> > > IIRC, it was Markus who mentioned this a few days ago.
> >
> > I remember Markus's answer as being helpful, informative, ...
>
>Nono, he had a posting about different subject structures in German
>and Icelandic and I asked what the difference was. One thing he
>mentioned was coordinated clauses (the other thing was reflexives).
>But he said by his understanding, German did not allow non-nominative
>subjects. I *currently* disagree, but there are so many strange that
>it is possible to convince me with good arguments.
I didn't say it doesn't allow non-nominative subjects, only that the
non-nominative subjects have different features from the average subjects
(such as different features as far as reflexive binding and such goes) , and
that this needs to be accounted for. My proposed solution - which I at the
moment don't know how to test - is that the non-nom subjects are embedded in
the subject phrase in a way that the nominative subjects are not. (I have
been thinking of "agreement" a bit lately too, since I am of the opinion
that this is a form of agreement.)
I have been away for a couple of days, and therefore unable to respond. I'll
read through the rest of the discussion promptly.
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